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The beginning of Etymology Genius, can we Pokorny’s PIE index?
http://dnghu.org/indoeuropean.html
What would be the best way to go about it?
Yis. I’m up for it.
But, what about this search engine?
It isn’t as reliable in my opinion because it doesn’t have as many words. Or better yet, the historical roots of the words coming from different languages. It’s limited to a few. It would be awesome if the link you provided and the one I provided were combined into one.
Calling it…the Etymology God..or maybe just Etymology Genius, lol.
This is an awesome idea– I’m a bit of an etymology nerd.
I’m not sure how it would best fit the platform– perhaps a list of Proto Indo-European roots and the words they’ve begat? Have an experiment and post the results– feel free to PM me for any help or questions.
“I’m not sure how it would best fit the platform— perhaps a list of Proto Indo-European roots and the words they’ve begat?”
That sounds like the easiest way to start, Beginning with the PIE gives it more validity, especially when we can link related words to their “Origin”
I’m most interested in posting an Anomaly section to be reviewed by philologists, who can say “This is a hilarious anomaly”, or “You know, this might actually have a further connection”
I would love to make RG a center for etymologial research.
Such anomalies i’m talking about are like this:
the word for “Man” in latin Vir; second declension nominative it becomes Virus; Is it coincidence the sounding relation to virus? Mankind is a virus (the matrix lol)
Dandelion is said to come from Dent-de-lion “Teeth of the lion” well a dandelion has sacred geometry composing its seed arrangement and Dande, is the gerundive form of Do- meaning “about to be given” we make a wish on a dandelion “About to be given” flower.
There are millions of things like this:
could the word “King” be related to hebrew Kohan, mongolian Khan, Hawaiian Kahuuna, South American Huaca, etc…
We can make this an actual place for etymological discovery! I have many theories that it would be easier to unravel if there was a manipulable database of relatable concepts.
I am transcribing a the PIE based off of this list:
http://www.utexas.edu/cola/centers/lrc/ielex/PokornyMaster-X.html
Is there anything wrong with that?
Somebody could get in touch with the Language Log people.
I’m just going to do it and edit it as needed. Eventually we should develo an advertising task force aimed towards finding budding Geologists and Philologists and any other kind of person (Biblical scholar, victorian poetry scholar, etc…)who we can lure to contribute.
We can even make a task force forum which primarily deals with Real life communications and expansion of RG.
If we can be of any help, @Province and I have Linguistics degrees. His is recent, mine ancient!
Awesome! @Scottish-Lady
I believe English is a special language because of all the semantic doubling entailed in its complex origins; i will be using the PIE index to make interesting observations about the Semantic complexity of English as we know it.
Once i get more organized and start structuring my thoughts a little better i will keep you guys updated on what i am doing.
I’ll tell you a good starting point – Puns. They often arise from words that have been adopted from different sources.
@ewokABdevito OK, I really like the idea of having a list of PIE roots, but just mind how you go– we have no direct evidence that any of those roots actually existed sonce they weren’t written down; their existence is inferred from the similarity of Latin, Ancient Greek and Sanskrit.
Also, just because words resemble each other doesn’t mean they’re etymologically related. “Virus” comes straight from the Latin virus, which meant a kind of slimy poison. It is not related to “vir” at all– the similarity might be useful from a creative perspective (as you say, punning on how man is a virus) but the words come from totally different places. Etymological research is long and very tedious.
If you’d like to learn more, a book like this one might be a good idea.
@stephen_j_p Let me introduce you to the idea that people who named things and organized names for things LOVED PUNS!
Why is Thales named Thales? (he said everything is water Thallatos means sea)
Why is Plato named plato? (it means broad, he was said to have broad shoulders…. ALL of philosophy is built on his shoulders!)
i’m well aware of all the stiff and rigid “Sanitary” etymology. And i want to provide a place for evidence aginst the contrary… I think there are a lot of “Politics” involved in etymology as well, such as preservation of culture, etc… the same goes for archaeology and anthropology. In the collegiate environment.
Lol evidence against the contrary. wtf?
I want to provide evidence for contrary ideas.
I will start it as a dataaase of the “Uncanny” and slowly add similarities and “More discoveries” that can credit any relation they may have.
We will keep pokorny’s index sanitary, but we will link to places where we experiment.
@ewokABdevito You seem to be conflating punning and etymology– etymology is a branch of philological science, i.e., it has been scientifically proven that our word “virus” descends from the Latin word virus and not vir.
You might call this “sanitary”, but it’s the product of serious and dedicated academic research. With respect, you have no proof whatsoever that any of your “etymologies” are valid– they’re just words that you’ve noticed look similar.
Also i am developing the idea for an app we can release in conjunction with the language portion of the site that is extremely fun and can be used for an AWESOME field of language research. not CHICKENSCRATCH but a multipurpose “Encoding app, that can be used to try to create your own "hieroglyphics/poetic picture language” as a fun side purpose that where we can get 1,000s of people building their own hieroglyphic languages off of “relevant semantic symbols/ideas”